Casey's Last Moment in the Sun

[casey]

Hey girls! Just wanted to wish you both congratulations for getting as far as you did. Without further adieu... I will get to my questions. 

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I would like you to compare each of the jurors to an animal. Please use the symbolism listed on this webpage to do so. I want you to *really* think closely about your answers and give detailed justifications. Consider this an exercise in persuasive writing.

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I would like each of you to compare each juror to a Survivor or Big Brother WINNER. This is your chance to stroke our egos and show us that you are willing to ~fight~ for the title of BBRnF10 winner.

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Winners should have good manners and a sense of humility... I would like you both to list three negative attributes of your game and then list three positive attributes of your opponent's game. These should be real reasons and not just fluff! 

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Please write a short story involving yourself and all the jurors in a fictional setting of your choice. You can do whatever you would like for the stories but for extra points each player's role in the story should somewhat mirror their actions in the game. You can also involve the hosts/pre-jurors if you would like but they are not necessary.

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LMAO. OK please answer none of the previous questions because they are the worst things EVER. I just wanted to fuck with the two of you a little <3. I have legit seen people ask three of the four questions though at final tribal councils though XD. Anyways, moving on... here are my ACTUAL thoughts and questions:

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Skye 

I think you played a fabulous game and have earned your spot. To be honest you probably do have the game all but locked up right now... but you do not have my vote 100% yet because I think that if a player is potentially going to be the first of the series to win unanimously then their jury answers should have to be on point. 

What I am interested to know from you is how your gameplan would have changed if Joey bows out of the game when she starts to go inactive (lets say, final 7 she leaves and Greg's eviction is cancelled?). So much of the end game revolved around who could get to the end with Joey so I would like to know what would your ideal endgame look like in a scenario where she wasn't here? Who would you be trying to sit beside in the finals and what would your ideal plan be to get there?

Joey

Joey as you mentioned in your opening speech, your game ended up being pretty lackluster. I felt in earlier rounds that you were actually doing pretty well but obviously things changed a little bit when life got in the way. I am sorry to hear about your grandfather and hope you are doing alright. One thing I WILL say though is that I think if you are in a similar situation to this in the future that I hope you would consider bowing out because to me it felt like the overall quality of the game suffered due to the fact that you were still here but weren't able to participate. IMO even though quitting in an ORG just because a player realizes they are losing kinda sucks, quitting because life is interfering with your ability to commit is perfectly acceptable.

Anyways, I DO have a question for you. You mentioned in your speech that you had plans that never came into fruition. I am interested to hear more about this. Were you exclusively talking about your desire to nominate Skye and Candice had you won an HoH or was there more that you were referring to? Assuming that you were able to be here for the entire game, are there any particular outcomes you would have pushed for at any particular time? Let's assume for the sake of simplicity that competition winners would have remained the same. 

Last, I have a question that I would like the both of you to answer. 

For each player that is on the jury, I would like you to list quality that is most responsible for them making it as far as they did as well as the quality it is that is is most responsible for bringing their game to an end. Please give a brief justification for your answers but I am not looking for an essay here.

[Skye Wheatley]

Oh my god. You scared me.

[casey]

LMAO Mission accomplished!

[Skye Wheatley]

Aside from almost having a heart attack; hi, Casey! xD Thank you, really. I really did try to play a clean game to start out. It got messy toward the end because of how close we all were, and I was the one put in the position toward the end to take you guys out. While I felt these decisions had to be made, it doesn't mean they were easy. I played this game with you, with Candice, and with Boog. I felt like they were a handful of strong bonds and having to pull the trigger on each one was difficult. You were a great ally to have this season. I felt like you were super wise and you were extremely comforting during different periods, especially toward the end. I wish I could be eligible for the first unanimous winner, but Heaven locked that up in S6. ;__; But, I will try and match her if you guys can hear me out!

At the F7, I was still heavily leaning toward going to the end with Candice. Candice and I had made a F2 earlier in the game and I was dedicated to it. However, as the game progressed and people kept saying Candice was the threat, Candice was going to win, and Candice was the one to beat .. it made me realize that maybe it wasn't a smart decision. I was intentionally throwing competitions and trying to be friendly with everyone, but I wasn't making waves in the house. Candice was. I realized that my strategy might not have been great for the end game, because Candice was far more visible than I was earlier on. However, let's say that people still said that and play with that! Had I changed my mind and didn't want Candice with me in the end anymore, I would've definitely road with Greg. Greg was my #2 in the game, and I think that had I gone to the end with him, I'd be honoring the friendship we built in this house but also I feel like I could've won over him had everything panned out the same way competition wise. I would've tried to form an outside alliance of myself, Greg, and Russell. While Greg and Russell weren't great in competitions, I started to step up myself in this timeframe and could've won to secure atleast one or all of our safety.

Another approach I would've taken would have been to still work with Candice closely under the guise that I still wanted her with me in the F2, much like I did near the end of the reality, but also merged my relationship with she and Greg. I could've proposed the idea of since Joey was gone, Greg being Joey's replacement would've been ideal. I would've been close to Greg and Candice with each in the F3. I feel like this could have worked, especially since Candice and I always eyed you as a threat, Casey, and wondered if you and Boog were closer or aligned before bringing her into the alliance.

For Tahan, I would say her positive quality would be upbeat, her negative being that she was competitive. Tahan had a bubbly personality when you spoke to her, so it drew people to her early on and spared her the first couple rounds. Her competitive nature in competitions is what made her a target by the majority alliance, as she wasn't involved in it and was seen as threatening opposition to most of the group. For Calum, I'd say perceptive and indiscreet. Calum seemed pretty aware that the house was quiet, and it was because the more active people weren't aligned with him, and we spoke game with eachother. However, he was indiscreet in his methods of trying to get me to use the POV, and when he let it slip to the wrong person [you] about fear of an all girl's alliance. Greg's would be quirky and quick-tempered. I don't know how Greg was with the majority, but to me, he was one of, if not the funniest people to talk to in the game. I loved his sense of humor and that's what drew me to him! I think his quick-temper is what did him in. Instead of trying to find his way to stay safe and be contained, he blew up on Candice and everyone that last week he was up.

For Russell, I would go with personable and detached. Russell had a great social game, atleast in my eyes. Even though he wasn't in the group alliance, he had people in it, protecting him. When Candice had won and was in a position where she had to nominate him, she struggled with the decision because of how enjoyable Russ was to talk to. I'd say detached, because he wasn't part of the majority alliance and wasn't aware of everything that was happening in the game. For Boog, I would go with devoted and foolish. Boog was devoted to the game, as she was our alliance. She stressed to me early on that she wanted to goto the end with our group. I think that notion was foolish however, because neither me, nor Candice, and I assume you too, Casey, wanted all of us in the F4. For Candice, I'll say passionate and gullible. Candice was passionate about us in the game, or atleast that's how it was portayed to me. She wanted to make the end, #RideOrDie. However, I felt like toward the end, she was sorta' gullible in thinking that I would still be loyal to the idea of taking her to the finals, even with all the things the Jury said as they left. Lastly, you, Casey! I'll say wise and unlucky. You had a good head on your shoulders, had a calculated social game, and I feel like you always had great advice. However, you were unlucky in the competitions, and it's what did you in overall, in my opinion.

[tl;dr] Sorry, I wanted to answer everything the best I could!

[Joey]

In all honesty, I didn't consider quitting, because I honestly thought that I would be able to regain momentum. But life kept getting in the way. Idk I'm not a quitter, but I'm not going to be told that I should quit when you all had several opportunities to get rid of me if you thought I was dead wait. Tbh I think letting me get this far shows a bit of cowardice in folks, because I'm easy to beat. I'm not apologizing for not quitting, but I do apologize for my lack of activity.

When I was speaking of my plans, you'll read in my Diary Room that I wanted to backdoor Candice and/or Skye from about midgame, but never won a competition to make it happen. I would have loved to have kept Calum around instead of having him leave, but I didn't have the vote or the sway to do so.

Tahan - I think she was sweet and active enough to get her past the first few votes, but everytime I tried to talk to her she was kind of dull so I don't think she had many solid connections.

Calum - Calum had a good enough social game to get him to jury, and I think his social game coudl have gotten him further but he became a threat to Candice which led to his demise.

Greg - Honestly I don't know he was hard as hell to talk to. Sorry.

Russell - Russell was socially aware and advantageous, but got put on the block one too many times and didn't have the connections in the end to get him past our eviction round.

Boog - Boog was a sweetheart which I think helped her make social connections. She was also physically tough in challenges, and I think she became a threat because of these factors.

Candice - Social and strategic mastermind, had the connections and challenge abilities to get far but was BY FAR the biggest threat in the game.

Casey - Fun to chat with, strong social awareness, he was less of a goat than me so that's why ya went.

[(Logan) Greg]

Joey, interesting that you say you wanted to keep Calum, but you never actually did anything to get that happening. I personally actually voted to keep Calum, and I was the only one and I wasn't a coward about voting the way I wanted to, but I guess messaging me was a bit too much of a strategic approach for you to take?

As for addressing you quitting or not, you do make a fair point that people had many opportunities to take you out if they wanted to, but they decided to keep dragging you to the end. I'd say that's more of other players (*cough* Candice *cough*) weakness than a strength of your game (I'm not sure how you influenced people in keeping you, because it was their choice to drag you), but I understand your point. And I do think it's quite funny that you outlasted those people who dragged you all the way through the game, and that irony is not lost on me. That is the risk you take carrying a goat through the game because people get greedy for an easy path at the end. I have said as much in jury, so I don't hate on you so much for being OK with being a goat in the game. But I also wouldn't say you came into this trying to play the goat. You just became one and were OK with it.

[candice]

greg if you think that keeping joey around was a bad move for me to make, prove it instead of trying to make me feel shitty for it, because i stand by it

[(Logan) Greg]

May 1, 2015 13:14:33 GMT candice said:

greg if you think that keeping joey around was a bad move for me to make, prove it instead of trying to make me feel shitty for it, because i stand by it

Well my proof would be that she's in F2 and you're not.


And I singled you out because you were winning comps, so it was your choice who to put on the block. But it was also your alliance's choice to vote to keep her, in any case she was in danger. But you not putting her on the block is essentially protecting her for your own game, and sure she was probably easy to lead by the leash in whatever direction you wanted to go, but you also allowed her to be a temptingly delicious option to face at the end for other players left. That is why it was a mistake to take her so far. She sure as hell didn't get there of her own merit.

[candice]

i knew i had to win a comp at f4 regardless considering i had the most overtly threatening position in the game. if it were between me and russell, me and you, me and casey, i would expect skye to make the same decision she did regardless. i needed joey around to maximize my chances of winning a comp because i knew that as soon as i didn't, i was fucked. and i was.

[casey]

In all honesty, I didn't consider quitting, because I honestly thought that I would be able to regain momentum. But life kept getting in the way. Idk I'm not a quitter, but I'm not going to be told that I should quit when you all had several opportunities to get rid of me if you thought I was dead wait. Tbh I think letting me get this far shows a bit of cowardice in folks, because I'm easy to beat. I'm not apologizing for not quitting, but I do apologize for my lack of activity.

I think it is pretty standard in the Big Brother endgame for people go to the end with someone they are confident they could beat. I don't think there was cowardice involved in Skye's decision to bring you to the end. One of the main reasons people join games is to win, so it is not really that surprising that people would take the sure bet over a big question mark.

I don't think you should have to apologize for not quitting, I am hoping that you consider the option in the future because from my perspective this game was robbed of what could have been a much more interesting endgame due to of your midgame 'non-quit'. I get that you don't fancy yourself a quitter but personally I think that going completely inactive to the point where you aren't submitting challenges or signing into AIM for days at a time is far more detrimental to the quality of a game than quitting. I certainly respect quitters (that have a valid reason) much more than inactive players.

Yes, there were opportunities for people to get rid of you and had you been inactive in the beginning of the game you probably *would* have left for it - but going from being active in the beginning of the game to completely inactive part way through is puts players in a very odd predicament. They have already incorporated you into their plans and they don't know if you are going to come back, and also they have made it far enough in the game that they probably can't afford to waste their HoH on someone who represents no threat to their game. I think if you had been inactive since the first round, it would be a very different story.

I just don't really understand why you would bother to play a game you don't don't even care slightly about? Or join other games at the same time when you are too busy to play your first one? IDK that just doesn't really sit right with me but to each their own.